Beleive it or not.... a good 65% of them are anti-pua. and hate frauds and scammers.... they have a huge culture of be a "natural". They think it's best to listen and read on what each guru's ideas are,then take what you like and mix it in with your own personality ,to have your own unique style that you are comfortable with. I started visiting their forum..... and most of them have the same opinion as us, some of the time, on the same gurus.

If you like puahate,( duh!).... check them out... just my two cents..

I used to jump whenever Tyler told me too.

I dunno man, I tried to give some advice over there, many of them are clueless too, This guy "[v]" is one of them. Another is Sublime and DreamMaker. Tons of posts for each, but you can tell they don't get laid.